Ultimo Configure correctly two lnb's/scr

daviduzzo

Vu+ Newbie
Hi all, I hope you can help me.
I have an ultimo 4k with 1xDVB-S2X Fbc.
To lnb0in it is connected an lnb/scr 4channel pointed to HotBird 13.0E, that allows me to view 4 channel simultaneously.
I wished to grab also astra 19.2E, so I bought another Lnb/scr 4channel, cable and a multifeed bracket.
Once the installation is complete, I put new cable (from new lnb) in lnb1in, but i don't know how to correctly configure tuner 1 and every configuration I try doesn't me good signal on Astra and grab any channel (just discrete agc) and as soon as the tuner 1 is active, I lose the signal on the tuner 0 (hotbird).
Thank you in adavance for your contributes.
 

daviduzzo

Vu+ Newbie
Really I can't grab Astra also without HotBird. I'm tryng but I can't obtain any signal. I don't know if the problem is LNBscr "emmeesse"....I can't find it in the list of unicable device, so I'm trying every single device in the list with 4scr and frequency 1020, etc.
 

nunigaia

Moderator
Really I can't grab Astra also without HotBird. I'm tryng but I can't obtain any signal. I don't know if the problem is LNBscr "emmeesse"....I can't find it in the list of unicable device, so I'm trying every single device in the list with 4scr and frequency 1020, etc.

Can you please, post the brand and models of the 2 LNB SCR, as also the image you are using?

Asap, and when i get home from work, i will try to look at this settings, in order to try helping you! :)

best regards
nunigaia
 

daviduzzo

Vu+ Newbie
I'm using Black Hole 3.0.8 the latest image available.
infinite thanks.
first one lnb/scr (pointed on hotbird 13.0E and working if lonely) is an inverto lnb/scr, i can't give you more details because the "ticket" is gone on lnb, however it functions with settings --> Unicable - SCR --> Inverto --> IDLB-QUDL-UNI2L-OPP and it gives me the possibility to watch 4 channels at the same time (frequencies 1210,etc)
second lnb is an emmesse 80199S, it should be pointed on astra, but I can't grab it.
if I could center astra, could it be a problem for the tuners that both lnb's work on the same frequencies even though they are two different lnb?
 

Mick12334

Moderator
Both LNB's are pointed at different satellites, and there's a 6 degree separation between the LNB's so transponders using the same frequency shouldn't cause any problems, once you've set the tuner up correctly.
Are you certain you have the second LNB aligned to Astra 1, 19.2E?
Have you set up multiple LNB's before?
When setting up multiple LNB's you need to think about where the signal is coming from. If your dish is aligned to Hotbird, 13E, then your second LNB, for 19.2E, needs to be to the left of that, when facing the dish, right if behind the dish, opposite to the way you would think.
multiple LNB's.jpg
 

daviduzzo

Vu+ Newbie
first of all thanks also to you mick. No I've never done it before, and I'm quite new to the world of puzzle decoders. but I'm passionate about it fast. I'm a stupid, and sorry for that: I put it on the right of Hotibird (looking in front the dish). I'm so stupid. I thought that the degrees were counted by increasing them towards the east. I'm stupid and newbie. At home I will arrange to fix it.
The grab it has no clear signs to distance the two lnb: can I ask you approximately how many mm of distance between them?
And about the configuration of tuner, do you think it will work by inserting lnb-scr inverto generic 4-channel?
 

Mick12334

Moderator
It's not that stupid, we've all made that mistake, it's generally because most dishes are offset, so the signal, from the satellite, reflects off the dish and collects at certain points, where the LB is sited.
What I would do is disconnect the first LNB, from your receiver, by unscrewing the F connector, then align your second LNB, to 19.2E, you might also pick up other satellites, like 16E, or 23.5E, before you get 19.2E.

Personally I have a motorized, 1.2 Channel Master dish, with twin LNB, so two outputs, rather than a fixed dish with multiple LNB's, so I haven't tried your configuration, and I use Open Black Hole, rather than Black Hole, as I tend to use the Kodi feature.

Once you've got the LNB aligned, to 19.2E, I'm sure someone, with a similar setup, will be able to advise you on the tuner configuration.

Good luck, and please keep us updated.
 

daviduzzo

Vu+ Newbie
I will follow all your tips and I'll let you know. At the moment for pointing I am helping myself with the satfinder blackhole application.
 

nunigaia

Moderator
I'm using Black Hole 3.0.8 the latest image available.
infinite thanks.
first one lnb/scr (pointed on hotbird 13.0E and working if lonely) is an inverto lnb/scr, i can't give you more details because the "ticket" is gone on lnb, however it functions with settings --> Unicable - SCR --> Inverto --> IDLB-QUDL-UNI2L-OPP and it gives me the possibility to watch 4 channels at the same time (frequencies 1210,etc)
second lnb is an emmesse 80199S, it should be pointed on astra, but I can't grab it.
if I could center astra, could it be a problem for the tuners that both lnb's work on the same frequencies even though they are two different lnb?

Both LNB´S have the same specs.

1 universal output
1 SCR

You can use the same brand for both ... for example INVERTO.

Look at the SC1 ...

Requesites:

One cable for each input ( tuner )

Mode (advanced ) ... LNB1 ... Hotbird
Mode (advanced ) ... LNB1 ... Astra

or vice-versa.

Example for input 1 ...

Please note that only will change the ( LNB1 to LNB1 ).

A,B,C,D tuner inputs Astra
E,F,G,H tuner inputs Hotbird or vice-versa.

With BlackHole, you just need to configure A ... and E ... for each input.

SC_2.jpg SC_1.jpg
best regards
nunigaia

Note: You can´t use a splitter to join the cables from LNB1 and LNB2 ( Inverto and Emmesse ), and your antenna and LNB´s must be correctly aligned!
 

daviduzzo

Vu+ Newbie
will update: thanks your suggestions I've done. But I only have 50% snr on Astra, and I didn't realize I had mounted the bracket with lnb fixed on astra LOL ... stupid mistakes on errors. So tomorrow I will provide to remove the lnb and find a configuration with a more advantageous snr. What percentages should I accept, more or less?
@nunigaia and everyone is in my situation: it's important set Tuner A e B on HB/Astra or viceversa, otherwise enigma2 went into freeze. Obviously then, it's needed set c d e connected to a --> scr2,3,4 and e f g connected to b --> scr2,3,4.
thanks again for your support
 

Mick12334

Moderator
Don't forget to skew, rotate, your LNB slightly, to maximize the signal quality, after adjusting the bracket, LNB, and if necessary, the dish, to get the best possible signal, from both satellites.
 

daviduzzo

Vu+ Newbie
@Mick12334 @nunigaia The work is done. I obtained 80% signal both Astra and Hotbird, I did not want to suffer any longer even because with 80% signal on HotBird I was OK with single feed. Stranger thing is: once the manual channel of Astra and Hotbird search has been carried out correctly, I can see only Astra, it's strange. I'm redoing the automatic tuning and we'll see...
 

daviduzzo

Vu+ Newbie
the decoder doesn"t switch between tuner 0 Hotbird and tuner 1 Astra, yesterday did it. Some suggestions?

If I go into quad PiP, i can select and correct viewing both sateliite switching A --> B, but if I select a channel from the list of satellite the tuner remains A and doesn't swtich
 

Mick12334

Moderator
Please post screen grabs of your Tuner configurations, use openwebif, just type your receivers IP Address, into a web browser and access your receivers menu and grab some images.
How many tuners do you have installed?
Just re-read your first post and you only list 1xDVB-S2X Fbc
 

daviduzzo

Vu+ Newbie
Please post screen grabs of your Tuner configurations, use openwebif, just type your receivers IP Address, into a web browser and access your receivers menu and grab some images.
How many tuners do you have installed? Just re-read your first post and you only list 1xDVB-S2X Fbc
Infinite thanks for your support.
Yes I' have also a DVB-T2 tuner, I didn't think it was relevant....after a lot of work it would be nice to have the satisfaction that works

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