Black hole password

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capwaves

Vu+ Newbie
Hello everyone,

I have a Vu+ Uno4K SE and I recently installed the latest Black hole image.
Wanting to transfer a file in FTP, DCC or Filezilla, the image asks me to user and the password.
On my previous image Openpli, I never had this problem and I did not touch anything.
Someone can help me ?
Thank you.
 
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Mick12334

Moderator
There isn't usually a password, unless you've set one.
For Filezilla you have Host, which is your receivers assigned IP address, and Username, which is root, then all you do is hit quick connect.
For DCC, Dreambox Control Centre, you don't even need that, you just can use the search option, to locate all devices, on your network, and their IP Addresses.

Have you added any security, or a new router, to your network, or PC, including any updates?
 
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capwaves

Vu+ Newbie
Mick12334 said:
There isn't usually a password, unless you've set one.
For Filezilla you have Host, which is your receivers assigned IP address, and Username, which is root, then all you do is hit quick connect.
For DCC, Dreambox Control Centre, you don't even need that, you just can use the search option, to locate all devices, on your network, and their IP Addresses.

Have you added any security, or a new router, to your network, or PC, including any updates?
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Hello,

Thank you for your replay
This is a VERY clean image, i do not change anything in my router, all is like before i use openpli.
 
angelofsky1980

angelofsky1980

BlackHole Driver Specialist
capwaves said:
Thank you, but it doesn't work
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In BH images downloaded from this Board, there is no password for root account.
If you have your box SSH/Telnet port opened to world (Internet) probably you were hacked and someone set up a password.
The only thing you can do is to reflash your box and set up yourself a password and, also, don't open your box to the World.
 
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azl

Vu+ Newbie
Alexwilmac said:
Where do you ever had "root" as a password for clean images???????? Never ever.
There is NO password if the image is clean and, obviously, if it's not a backup.
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ALWAYS uses password to transfer files with the help of ftp. You'll never get ftp access without password. NEVER.

There are 2 passwords exist:
1. login: root, password: root - for ftp.
2. login: root, password: dreambox - for http(s) access, dcc, DreadmboxEdit.

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azl

Vu+ Newbie
nunigaia said:
There´s no any password for BlackHole or Open BlackHole images:

login: root
password: ( leave this field blank ) and just press enter lo login.

best regards
nunigaia
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All mighty God... Just load DCC and look. Password is dreambox. I've never changed it. The same for DreamboxEdit.
 
nunigaia

nunigaia

Moderator
azl said:
All mighty God... Just load DCC and look. Password is dreambox. I've never changed it. The same for DreamboxEdit.
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Though, you have setted the passord to "dreambox", or you are using a backed up image ;)

best regards
nunigaia
 
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azl

Vu+ Newbie
No, I've never used backed up image. Only new, always. And never setted the password :)

Well, I've performed an experiment. I've created 3 ftp connections in Total Commander:
  1. login "root", password "root" - works and doesn't ask for password.
  2. login "root", password "dreambox" - works and doesn't ask for password.
  3. login "root", password left this field blank - works, but always ask for password. I need to press enter lo login every time.
So, there are 3 variants of connection by ftp.

Thanks.
 
Matrix10

Matrix10

Administrator
ALWAYS uses password to transfer files with the help of ftp. You'll never get ftp access without password. NEVER.
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azl said:
No, I've never used backed up image. Only new, always. And never setted the password :)

Well, I've performed an experiment. I've created 3 ftp connections in Total Commander:
  1. login "root", password "root" - works and doesn't ask for password.
  2. login "root", password "dreambox" - works and doesn't ask for password.
  3. login "root", password left this field blank - works, but always ask for password. I need to press enter lo login every time.
So, there are 3 variants of connection by ftp.

Thanks.
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Not exactly,

In my Total Commander.

If you do not have a FTP password in Total Commander you can connect without
passwords.And Total Commander does not ask anything.
The password has no function.

If you have a password you must use the password.
if you do not type your password automatically or manually,
then Total Commander asks for your password.

There is no dreambox password in the standard BH image
ie the clean image has no password
only user : root
 
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azl

Vu+ Newbie
There is no need in it. It's not a problem to set password "root" or "dreambox" once and use it.
 
Matrix10

Matrix10

Administrator
This idea does not seem good,
because the dreambox,root e.t.c password is poorly protected
Better use your own password.
 
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azl

Vu+ Newbie
Matrix10 said:
Not exactly,

In my Total Commander.

If you do not have a FTP password in Total Commander you can connect without
passwords.And Total Commander does not ask anything.
The password has no function.

If you have a password you must use the password.
if you do not type your password automatically or manually,
then Total Commander asks for your password.
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I use TC (ex Windows Commander) for a long time (~20 years). And always TC asks for password if it doesn't set.

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azl

Vu+ Newbie
Matrix10 said:
This idea does not seem good,
because the dreambox,root e.t.c password is poorly protected
Better use your own password.
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If it is opened for world, of course, the password should be changed. But if I use it only in local network, it doesn't matter.
 
Matrix10

Matrix10

Administrator
azl said:
I use TC (ex Windows Commander) for a long time (~20 years). And always TC asks for password if it doesn't set.
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Yes,
you can put anything like a password
but that does not mean that the box has a password.
This is a fake password for some FTP programs and for TC.
Once again, BH image installed cleanly has no password.
You have to make it yourself.

For those who do not know in telnet
command: passwd
Write a password.

If it is opened for world, of course, the password should be changed. But if I use it only in local network, it doesn't matter.
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I know some who thought the same
and were hacked.
So always use your password.
 
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