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New Skins BH 3.0.5

Discussion in 'Vu+ Skins & Bootlogos' started by Matrix10, Dec 25, 2017.

  1. Matrix10

    Matrix10 Administrator

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    Pls test all this with tuner and with image in flash ,not Multiboot and not Universe.
    If you have only image crash in Multiboot and in the universe I can not help then is not skin BUG.
     
  2. Matrix10

    Matrix10 Administrator

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    I do not normally publish my skins here
    but only for this time.
     

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  3. zotopmark

    zotopmark Vu+ Newbie

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    Thank you very much :oops::thanks::thanks:
     
  4. a911

    a911 The BH Lover

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    Nice Prince MX,
    I like Wave 1 and Wave 2...new concept.
    :idea::thanks:
     
  5. Alexwilmac

    Alexwilmac Vip

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    Oh, it's funny how people want to make things complicated with this old feature Universe... What for? Or did you mean the much more useful Open Multiboot?
    Let us know what you meant, exactly. Lately, I haven't had real issues with images installed in Multiboot: so I suspect it's really the old universe the source of your problems, isn't it?
     
  6. Rumburak

    Rumburak Vu+ Newbie

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    Hello MX,
    I absolutely do not claim that the error lies on the skin side!
    I described the problem in this thread because the GSs did occur after loading the new Eclipse FHD skin, but I think that these BSs are probably the result of some conflict between the new skin and some elements of the previously installed software.
    I only had 4 GSs in the first hours of using the Eclipse FHD skin, and although I have been using this skin for several days, so far more of them have not appeared.
    I am forced to use UNIVERSE and Multiboot due to the small amount of flash memory in my Duo.

    Best wishes for a New Year
     
  7. aldente

    aldente Vu+ Newbie

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    Hi1
    this skins are ok for OBH?
     
  8. aldente

    aldente Vu+ Newbie

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    sorry!
     
  9. zadow

    zadow Vu+ Newbie

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    Question @Matrix10
    Is it not possible to make an 3840 × 2160 resolution skin on the new 4k receivers (ultimo 4k and more).
    Also if this is possible,then the integrated youtube application would show full UHD, since it is the upscaled skin (1080p )that holds back full uhd passthrough, from other apps like youtube.
     
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  10. Matrix10

    Matrix10 Administrator

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    It is not possible.
    In principle, I do not see the reason for the increase in resolution, which would again have a negative effect
    to the image performance.
    Namely, the quality of the graphics and letters is quite good and the further increase in the resolution would have more negative than a positive effect .

    About Youtube.
    I did not understand.
    Skin does not affect the resolution of youtube or any videomovie from other addons/plugins .
    Again I mean youtube video not youtube graphics/skin.
    Skin does not affect the resolution of movies and videos.
     
  11. zadow

    zadow Vu+ Newbie

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    Actually indeed the skins affects the plugins(some plugins)
    The building Youtubetv which is part of the chromium OS in the vu + 4k uses the adresss http://www.youtube.com/tv , however the app takes your current skin resolution and set a max resolution for playing videos.
    Also why in the Youtubetv( more info , and statistics for nerd) you would see that it does exactly that, setting max 1080p
    you can do a simple test , by going to your browser on your windows pc and then turn up scaling up down and you would get same results,or make a simple webkit app with like PyQt wich also uses chromium browser and unless that app is using fullscreen , and none scaling, that app would also be affected same way.

    You can say that skin resolution for both chromium browser and apps used by that browser on the 4k models , do not uses it full potential. And that is why i am interested in if it is possible to make a full 2160p skin.
     
  12. Matrix10

    Matrix10 Administrator

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    I would not discuss it further. For now, it is not possible to have a skin in 4K resolution

    However, your viewing plugins work is not correct
    Skin has nothing to do with movie resolution,, which you can get using a plugin.

    By that theory if I put old skin 1080 x 720
    I can not watch UHD TV anymore and all movies would be in that format.
    It's all about how it's coded in plugin, image and drivers and not in the skin.
    Skin resolution can only affect the resolution of the skin (plugin)
    if it is not coded for the same resolution.
    But it can not have the effect on the resolution of a movie or some other video.

    If we had 4K skins now
    all plugins would be with small panels because they were coded for 1080 x 720 or for 1920 x 1080.
    If they give video in SD format it will not become 4K because the skin is 4K.
     
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  13. Matrix10

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    If you think that skin is the one that determines the resolution of YouTube
    then make a config panel where you can choose which YouTube resolution you like to have independent of the skin resolution.
     
  14. zadow

    zadow Vu+ Newbie

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    No you misunderstood , i said that plugins that uses Chromium browser is affected by the skin, also why the youtubetv app is affected, since it runs via chromium browser
    standalone plugins that dont use the browser for display wouldn't be affected.

    I fiddled already played with the cromium browser code, however it can only run at what ever the skin is.

    and back to my question was only if it is possible to do a 4k skin , or does the vu kernel not allow it ?
     
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  15. Matrix10

    Matrix10 Administrator

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    Well, I've already answered those questions.
    That's more a question about image and driver coding than about the skin itself.
    I do not know the answer because I do not code image and drivers, but only skins.
     
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  16. Alexwilmac

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    I really don't see the point in having a 4K skin: it would be a nonsense.
    The skin's task is to display menus, infobars, lists and so on. The resolution is for videos and pictures.
    For instance, if you talk about computers and you are a photographer, then the resolution of your monitor is important to get every details. But the GUI elements will be the same than at lower resolutions. Indeed, they will be smaller and this will make your experience with the O.S. worse, because every icons, every menus and its items, would be smaller and with smaller fonts. And you'll probably choose bigger fonts for the GUI non to became blind.
    With bigger fonts and bigger icons, it'll seem that the GUI is the same but you'll still can work with pictures and videos with much more details.
     
  17. erolski

    erolski Vu+ Newbie

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    Thanks
     
  18. zadow

    zadow Vu+ Newbie

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    Well if the skin drags down the rest of the entire chromeos i cannot see if it is nonsense, basiclly now its a 4k UHD satbox without the fetures of 4k and is left as a 1080p box.
     
  19. Alexwilmac

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    So, learn how to design a skin and creates them for your own: Matrix and the other skins' designers are not your employees.
    For everyone here except you they do a fantastic job (for free, even) and we feel really grateful to them, especially to Matrix whose skins are one of the distinctive elements of our BH and OBH images.
    Or ask VU+ to put their designers at work.
     
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  20. Matrix10

    Matrix10 Administrator

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    I have a better idea to erase all HD and SD channels
    and leave only 4K
    I'm afraid we would not have much to see ,at least not for the next few years.
    :chair:

    What are the advantages and disadvantages of such a 4K skin ?

    Does that make some great improvement or not ?
    Does this have a major negative effect on image and performance ?
    That's the main question.
    Even if we had support within the images.

    My opinion
    the quality of so called FHD skins 1920 x 1080 is more than satisfying in relation
    on TV video material including 4K.


    4K skins That means everything has to be changed
    from image to addons and skins,
    and the impact of the size of the graphics on the same.

    Taking into account in quite a big impact on the overall performance.

    Of course, I respect other opinions as well
    especially if they come from those who know this matter....
     
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