I'm not receiving some satellites and was wondering if I had done something wrong? moved to a new house and set up my dish using 0.8W as a reference point but I'm no longer getting hipasat?? I only have a house about 20 metres away that could possibly be obstructing but I wouldn't of thought that'd be a problem?
which satellite for reference?
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Matrix10
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I have find this info for you.(Thanks to author from http://www.techwatch.co.uk/forums/5987-how-to-setup-a-motorised-dish-the-easy-way-with-usals.html)
and this one http://motorised-satellite-uk.com/installation-setup-tutorial/
Setting up the antenna that receives good satellites at orbit ends
is a very precise job.
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Welcome to Tech-Tronix Forums guides. We will explain an easy way to align a motorised satellite dish using the USALS setting on your satellite receiver. This method has been extensively tested by ourselves and is a very accurate method of installation.
Step 1. You will need to know your latitude and longitude before you start. A great place to fine this
information is Multimap (www.multimap.com) simply enter your post code, and the coordinates
and displayed below the map. For example if we enter NG12 3PB our coordinates will be:
Lat: 52:54:22N
Lon: 1:02:11W
You need to round up or down the coordinates to the nearest whole number. For example:
Lat 52.5N
Lon 1.0W
Step 2. Install the DisEqc motor and dish as instructed in the manual that came with your motor.
Make sure your mounting pole is perfectly vertical. Once you have done this and connected the motor to your satellite receiver, you need to enter the USALS menu. This will be explained in the receivers manual. Simply enter the the coordinates into the menu. Then select the THOR satellite at 1°West. The motor should move from it's default 0° to 1°West. Select a reliable channel such as BBC World.
Step 3. We presume that you are using a standard in-line meter in between your LNB and the DisEqc motor. Using the meter carefully align the dish to the Thor satellite. You should start to receive BBC World. Fine tune the dish to peak the signal as high as possible. Return to the receiver and select another satellite such as Hellasat at 39°East. Check the Alignment everything should be spot on. If not return to Thor and check the alignment again.
If you followed the instructions properly, you should be able to view a large number of satellites across the arc. Happy Viewing!
Please feel free to distribute this guide in any way. However you must not edit the text.
and this one http://motorised-satellite-uk.com/installation-setup-tutorial/
Setting up the antenna that receives good satellites at orbit ends
is a very precise job.
==========================================================================================================
Welcome to Tech-Tronix Forums guides. We will explain an easy way to align a motorised satellite dish using the USALS setting on your satellite receiver. This method has been extensively tested by ourselves and is a very accurate method of installation.
Step 1. You will need to know your latitude and longitude before you start. A great place to fine this
information is Multimap (www.multimap.com) simply enter your post code, and the coordinates
and displayed below the map. For example if we enter NG12 3PB our coordinates will be:
Lat: 52:54:22N
Lon: 1:02:11W
You need to round up or down the coordinates to the nearest whole number. For example:
Lat 52.5N
Lon 1.0W
Step 2. Install the DisEqc motor and dish as instructed in the manual that came with your motor.
Make sure your mounting pole is perfectly vertical. Once you have done this and connected the motor to your satellite receiver, you need to enter the USALS menu. This will be explained in the receivers manual. Simply enter the the coordinates into the menu. Then select the THOR satellite at 1°West. The motor should move from it's default 0° to 1°West. Select a reliable channel such as BBC World.
Step 3. We presume that you are using a standard in-line meter in between your LNB and the DisEqc motor. Using the meter carefully align the dish to the Thor satellite. You should start to receive BBC World. Fine tune the dish to peak the signal as high as possible. Return to the receiver and select another satellite such as Hellasat at 39°East. Check the Alignment everything should be spot on. If not return to Thor and check the alignment again.
If you followed the instructions properly, you should be able to view a large number of satellites across the arc. Happy Viewing!
Please feel free to distribute this guide in any way. However you must not edit the text.
Just to add that negative Longitude readings = West, positive = East.
Your True South position is based on your Longitude position, which is why you have everything set at 0, when starting, then, if using USALS, you enter your Latitude, and Longitude, into your receiver then drive your motor to a suitable satellite, for alignment, preferably one near to your true South.
Once done you physically move your dish/motor, on the pole, until you get the strongest signal, from your selected satellite.
Once done you tighten eveything up, carefully, so that it doesn't move, then use your receiver to send it to your furthest, available, East satellite, usually 39E, then furthest, available, West satellite, usually 30W. Make a note of the signal quality readings, then send it back to the initial satellite, you used for alignment, to make fine adjustment, to get it tracking the satellite arc correctly.
Your True South position is based on your Longitude position, which is why you have everything set at 0, when starting, then, if using USALS, you enter your Latitude, and Longitude, into your receiver then drive your motor to a suitable satellite, for alignment, preferably one near to your true South.
Once done you physically move your dish/motor, on the pole, until you get the strongest signal, from your selected satellite.
Once done you tighten eveything up, carefully, so that it doesn't move, then use your receiver to send it to your furthest, available, East satellite, usually 39E, then furthest, available, West satellite, usually 30W. Make a note of the signal quality readings, then send it back to the initial satellite, you used for alignment, to make fine adjustment, to get it tracking the satellite arc correctly.
im picking up most satellites that I usually do just not hipasat, im resricted 31.5 on the east as my house faces SW but the only thing that could be in the way is the house but that shouldn't be obstructing the signal unless hipasat is pretty low on the horizon?? thanks for the help by the way!
Try dishpointer.com, put in your postcode, select 30W, from the drop down satellite list, then zoom in on the map, moving the green icon, to where you have your dish sited.
Next tick the obstacle checker box and move the red icon to ant possible obstuctions, this will show how high the obstruction has to be to intefere with your signal.
If there are no obvious obstructions try using the motor positioner option to move your dish, slightly East/West, until you get a signal.
Also check with lyngsat.com for an active transponder, on 30W.
Next tick the obstacle checker box and move the red icon to ant possible obstuctions, this will show how high the obstruction has to be to intefere with your signal.
If there are no obvious obstructions try using the motor positioner option to move your dish, slightly East/West, until you get a signal.
Also check with lyngsat.com for an active transponder, on 30W.
The images, from dishpointer, can be a few years old.
There appear to be a lot of trees, in your area, and some of them look quite big, are there any between your dish and where you have the red icon sited?
Can you please post the frequencies, and signal quality readings, of the channels you are getting, along with the satellite.
There appear to be a lot of trees, in your area, and some of them look quite big, are there any between your dish and where you have the red icon sited?
Can you please post the frequencies, and signal quality readings, of the channels you are getting, along with the satellite.
el bandido
Vu+ User
The dish is probably not aligned correctly. For your area, the dish should be at its highest point at .8W, and the dish elevation will slowly decrease as you move away from .8W.
As a test, move to the satellites that have a signal, then slightly push and pull on the dish at the top, bottom, and on each side. The signal should decrease whenever the dish is moved. If the signal increases during this test, then the dish is not properly aligned.
Another test would be to manually move the motor and try to get a signal at 15 or 18 West. For example, if you get a signal for 18 West, but your dish is at 16.5 or 17 West, the dish elevation is set too low. If you get a signal for 18 West but your dish is at 19 or 19.5 West, then the dish elevation is set too high. Use the strongest transponders to do these tests.
Intelsat-10 @ 47.5 east 11501 H 3750 S2 Stan Sports $
AzerSpace-1 @ 46 east 10974 V 30000 MIR tv
Intelsat-12 @ 45 east 11523 V 5787 Prima tv
******* 3A @ 42 east 11472 H 23450 GDS TV
Hellas Sat-2 @ 39 east 12524 H 30000 The Voice
Eutelsat 36B @ 36 east 12521 H 4340 Lider tv
Eutelsat 33B @ 33.2 east 12722 V 16728 S2 Polsat Sport $
Astra 5B @ 31.5 east 11933 V 30000 Pro tv Int
Eutelsat 31A @ 30.8 east 11637 H 2222 ******* Tanitim
Eutelsat 28A @ 28.5 east 11260 V 27500 Africa Channel
Astra 2F @ 28.2 east 10964 H 22000 Channel 5
Badr-4 @ 26 east 12130 V 27500 Dubai Sports 1
Astra 3B @ 23.5 east 12168 V 27500 Ocko TV
Eutelsat 21B @ 21.5 east 11678 V 2850 Al Arabiya Al Hadath
Astra 1L @ 19.2 east 12226 H 27500 Euronews
Eutelsat 16A @ 16 east 11345 H 30000 S2 Carli tv
HotBird 13D @ 13 east 11137 H 27500 Bloomberg Europe
Eutelsat 10A @ 10 east 10756 V 2480 TV Zimbo
Eutelsat 9A @ 9 east 12054 H 27500 S2 Real Madrid tv
Eutelsat 7A @ 7 east 10721 H 22000 BBC Persian
Astra 4A @ 4.8 east 11766 H 27500 TET
Eutelsat 3B @ 3.1 east 11498 V 11852 Hispan TV
Thor-6 @ 0.8 west 12418 V 28000 Al Jazeera English
Intelsat 10-02 @ 1 west 12562 V 27500 Speranta TV
Amos-2 @ 4 west 10759 H 30000 News 24
Eutelsat 5WestA @ 5 west 11591 V 20000 France 2
Nilesat 102 @ 7 west 11938 V 27500 MBC Action
Eutelsat 7WestA @ 7.3 west 11430 V 27500 Palestine live
Eutelsat 8WestA @ 8 west 12533 H 5000 ******** feed $
Express AM44 @ 11 west 11565 H 8000 S2 Rete Capri
Eutelsat 12WestA @ 12.5 west 11407 V 27500 KTO
Telstar 12 @ 15 west 11032 V 2130 Kirkuk tv
Intelsat 901 @ 18 west 11606 H 12000 (Data Stream)
NSS-7 @ 20 west 12733 H 1500 DVB-S2 Nabaa TV
SES-4 @ 22 west 11128 H 14300 S2 Reuters tv
Intelsat 905 @ 24.5 west 11513 H 27500 TV Record
Intelsat 907 @ 27.5 west 11495 V 44100 S2 BBC News $
Hispasat 1E @ 30 west 12092 V 27500 Cubavision
Intelsat 903 @ 34.5 west 11028 V 5000 DVB-S2 (Data Stream)
Telstar 11N @ 37.5 west 11679 V 4090 DVB-S2 (Data Stream)
Intelsat 14 @ 45 west 11608 H 1852 RASD tv
December 23rd 2014 compiled by William-1
AzerSpace-1 @ 46 east 10974 V 30000 MIR tv
Intelsat-12 @ 45 east 11523 V 5787 Prima tv
******* 3A @ 42 east 11472 H 23450 GDS TV
Hellas Sat-2 @ 39 east 12524 H 30000 The Voice
Eutelsat 36B @ 36 east 12521 H 4340 Lider tv
Eutelsat 33B @ 33.2 east 12722 V 16728 S2 Polsat Sport $
Astra 5B @ 31.5 east 11933 V 30000 Pro tv Int
Eutelsat 31A @ 30.8 east 11637 H 2222 ******* Tanitim
Eutelsat 28A @ 28.5 east 11260 V 27500 Africa Channel
Astra 2F @ 28.2 east 10964 H 22000 Channel 5
Badr-4 @ 26 east 12130 V 27500 Dubai Sports 1
Astra 3B @ 23.5 east 12168 V 27500 Ocko TV
Eutelsat 21B @ 21.5 east 11678 V 2850 Al Arabiya Al Hadath
Astra 1L @ 19.2 east 12226 H 27500 Euronews
Eutelsat 16A @ 16 east 11345 H 30000 S2 Carli tv
HotBird 13D @ 13 east 11137 H 27500 Bloomberg Europe
Eutelsat 10A @ 10 east 10756 V 2480 TV Zimbo
Eutelsat 9A @ 9 east 12054 H 27500 S2 Real Madrid tv
Eutelsat 7A @ 7 east 10721 H 22000 BBC Persian
Astra 4A @ 4.8 east 11766 H 27500 TET
Eutelsat 3B @ 3.1 east 11498 V 11852 Hispan TV
Thor-6 @ 0.8 west 12418 V 28000 Al Jazeera English
Intelsat 10-02 @ 1 west 12562 V 27500 Speranta TV
Amos-2 @ 4 west 10759 H 30000 News 24
Eutelsat 5WestA @ 5 west 11591 V 20000 France 2
Nilesat 102 @ 7 west 11938 V 27500 MBC Action
Eutelsat 7WestA @ 7.3 west 11430 V 27500 Palestine live
Eutelsat 8WestA @ 8 west 12533 H 5000 ******** feed $
Express AM44 @ 11 west 11565 H 8000 S2 Rete Capri
Eutelsat 12WestA @ 12.5 west 11407 V 27500 KTO
Telstar 12 @ 15 west 11032 V 2130 Kirkuk tv
Intelsat 901 @ 18 west 11606 H 12000 (Data Stream)
NSS-7 @ 20 west 12733 H 1500 DVB-S2 Nabaa TV
SES-4 @ 22 west 11128 H 14300 S2 Reuters tv
Intelsat 905 @ 24.5 west 11513 H 27500 TV Record
Intelsat 907 @ 27.5 west 11495 V 44100 S2 BBC News $
Hispasat 1E @ 30 west 12092 V 27500 Cubavision
Intelsat 903 @ 34.5 west 11028 V 5000 DVB-S2 (Data Stream)
Telstar 11N @ 37.5 west 11679 V 4090 DVB-S2 (Data Stream)
Intelsat 14 @ 45 west 11608 H 1852 RASD tv
December 23rd 2014 compiled by William-1
Matrix10
Administrator
I think it is clear that
or the antenna is not well tuned
or antenna support tube is not vertical.
I do not believe that at such a large distance from the antenna trees prevent reception all of these satellites if any.
Are you sure you have well-read manual of your rotor.
You need to check reception from eastern satellites.
If there is a similar result then it is certain that the central satellite is out of adjustment.
Either you made a mistake in calculating the elevation of the rotor and antenna.
If the reception from eastern satellites is good especially the end satellites
Then mount/ support tube is not vertically installed.
or the antenna is not well tuned
or antenna support tube is not vertical.
I do not believe that at such a large distance from the antenna trees prevent reception all of these satellites if any.
Are you sure you have well-read manual of your rotor.
You need to check reception from eastern satellites.
If there is a similar result then it is certain that the central satellite is out of adjustment.
Either you made a mistake in calculating the elevation of the rotor and antenna.
If the reception from eastern satellites is good especially the end satellites
Then mount/ support tube is not vertically installed.
I am limited to the east to test as my house faces SW (dish hits wall) had to opt for a smaller dish from the 1.2m one I used at my old house so I am now using a 80cm dish, I will test properl at the weekend but will give you the signal readings for the satellites that I am receiving at the moment if that will help?
33E is my limit for turning my dish without hitting the wall!
33E - Polsat sport - 0% SNR
31.5E - Pro TV international - 0% SNR
28.2E - Channel 5 - 100% SNR
26E - Dubai sports 1 - 0% SNR
23.5E - Ocko TV - 67% SNR
19.2E - Euronews - 80% SNR
16E - Carli TV - 50% SNR
13E - Bloomber Europe - 79% SNR
10E - TV Zimbo - 0% SNR
9E - Real Madrid TV - 85% SNR
7E - BBC Persian - 0% SNR
4.8E - TET - 82% SNR
3.1E - Hispan TV - 52% SNR
0.8W - AlJazeera English - 84% SNR
1W satellite not listed in Vhannibal settings
4W - news 24 - 0% SNR
5W - France 2 - 79% SNR
7W - MBC action - 0% SNR
8W - 0% SNR
11W - Rete capri - 0% SNR ( momenteraly got sound so must be outta line for that!)
12.5W - KTO - 55% SNR
15W -Kirkuk TV - 35% SNR
18W - NBA TV - 0% SNR (couldn't find feed mentioned)
22W - Reuters TV - 0% SNR
24.5W - TV Record - 0% SNR
27.5W - BBC News - 0% SNR
30w - Cubavision - 0% SNR
45W - RASDTV - 0% SNR
These are the results I could gather and I appreciate you guys taking your time to help me out!!
Many thanks,
Dean
33E - Polsat sport - 0% SNR
31.5E - Pro TV international - 0% SNR
28.2E - Channel 5 - 100% SNR
26E - Dubai sports 1 - 0% SNR
23.5E - Ocko TV - 67% SNR
19.2E - Euronews - 80% SNR
16E - Carli TV - 50% SNR
13E - Bloomber Europe - 79% SNR
10E - TV Zimbo - 0% SNR
9E - Real Madrid TV - 85% SNR
7E - BBC Persian - 0% SNR
4.8E - TET - 82% SNR
3.1E - Hispan TV - 52% SNR
0.8W - AlJazeera English - 84% SNR
1W satellite not listed in Vhannibal settings
4W - news 24 - 0% SNR
5W - France 2 - 79% SNR
7W - MBC action - 0% SNR
8W - 0% SNR
11W - Rete capri - 0% SNR ( momenteraly got sound so must be outta line for that!)
12.5W - KTO - 55% SNR
15W -Kirkuk TV - 35% SNR
18W - NBA TV - 0% SNR (couldn't find feed mentioned)
22W - Reuters TV - 0% SNR
24.5W - TV Record - 0% SNR
27.5W - BBC News - 0% SNR
30w - Cubavision - 0% SNR
45W - RASDTV - 0% SNR
These are the results I could gather and I appreciate you guys taking your time to help me out!!
Many thanks,
Dean
Matrix10
Administrator
ELEVATION on your Motor and ELEVATION on your dish
Matrix10
Administrator
Ok
I think I have good Manual for your rotor
Motor 55 degrees
3. Setting Declination Angle.(B)
• Find the Declination Angle on the attached
ANGLE TABLE.
• Set the Declination Angle by the scale on the antenna dish. The reading on the antenna scaleshould be:
35°-DECLINATION ANGLE
For your Motor and location
ElevationAngle 55
DeclinationAngle 5,6
DishBracket Angle 29,5
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So motor on 55
Antenna on 29,5
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Set the antenna to 0 position on the rotor
Adjust Elevations
Motor ElevationAngle 55
DishBracket Angle 29,5
With the receiver move the antenna to your 0 satellite ( 0,8 W ?)
Set manually position of the rotor (east/west) for maximum signal.
Make fine-tuning correction in elevation of your antenna (not motor) for maximum signal.
Adjust the position of the LNB for the maximum signal , one centimeter can make noticeable difference in signal strength.
( up and down towards the center of the antenna .Leave the LNB angle 0 degree )
TEST
If not OK
Do not forget one degree is very important
you have to try one or two degrees lower Angle and one or two degree higher Angle on your rotor.
Adjust the antenna Angle every time on the maximum signal
on your zero-satellite 0.8 W ?
Adjust the position of the LNB for the maximum signal , one centimeter can make noticeable difference in signal strength.
( up and down towards the center of the antenna .Leave the LNB angle 0 degree )
Look strength to the east and west.
At the end satellites that you can recive .
Write the names of channels / satellites and the signal strength.
Repeat procedure
Compare the result on the same satellites and channels.
with two different angles on the motor and antenna.
Bring conclusion
Re-adjust the antenna to the maximum and test .