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roger sporken

Vu+ Newbie
Kodi works just fine here ,accept for the subtitle. i configured kodi the same as on my android stick and windows pc, in both of them the subs are automatic downloaded and played. i can't seem to make it work on my (brandnew) duo2. I don't want to use ddamir subtitle player cause then i have to contstanly adjust the timing.
any suggestions?
 

Harley

Vu+ Newbie
Great to hear that XBMC (now Kodi) have finally been ported to Vu+, however I'm sad to hear it is not using XBMC's internal PVR frontend GUI for LiveTV, EPG, and DVR.

I have the same issue with this as I do with PrismCube not utilizing the full potential of XBMC by not using XBMC's internal PVR frontend GUI unified interface.

That is, XBMCon Vu+ does not seam to use the integrated PVR or Live TV interface inside XBMC at all, and instead just like on PrismCube it launches a separate closed source application (MaruApp on PrismCube) for the PVR and Live-TV parts, and my guess it is probably even the same separate application software launched being developed by the same developers at Marusus for both Vu+ and PrismCube.

Code:
http://www.prismcube-community.net/board/threads/ideas-for-consideration-for-inclusion-in-future-builds.763/

I would very much like to see both Vu+ and PrismCube to instead use XBMC's own native PVR frontend GUI for PVR/DVR/EPG/Live-TV as the only interface on these boxes, and for that have a (headless) PVR-backend/server software which only works as a TV-tuner and recording server running as a background daemon service without a GUI.

Code:
http://kodi.wiki/index.php?title=PVR

I think that Vu+/PrismCube today is kind of ruining the XBMC experience by breaking the immersion of running the single application that is XBMC media center GUI, as it is right now Vu+/PrismCube is instead launching its own separate application for all PVR functions, and that separate application has its own GUI that only tries to emulate the look and feel of XBMC, but needs its own skin.

So it should instead in the future Vu+/PrismCube should port its own PVR backend TV server into a headless background running daemon service that work similar to like how Tvheadend PVR backend with XBMC works on a computer today, (and same if you use MediaPortal Server, VDR, or MythTV backend/server, etc. with XBMC). Which then all share the same XBMC's own native PVR frontend GUI for a common unified interface for everything, and the end-user should not even really need to know what PVR backend server that is running underneath it all.


Note again that I am not saying that Vu+/PrismCube should simply use Tvheadend or VDR. No I am instead saying that Vu+/PrismCube should convert the code for their existing TV tuning application into a PVR backend TV server that works similar to Tvheadend or VDR, without its own GUI. And to begin to instead fully utilize XBMC's native PVR frontend GUI, and soley use that GUI as the only end-user interface for Vu+/PrismCube that the users see on their TV display screen, following the XBMC' concept of how PVR should all the way completely, which happen to be standard client (frontend) to server (backend) model based

Code:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client–server_model

By switching to using XBMC's own native PVR frontend GUI and the PVR backend concept you will again all the benefits on a common development community that all work towards the same goal to improve XBMC's own native PVR frontend GUI and API interlace, no matter what PVR backend is used.

See example how Tvheadend integrates into XBMC/Kodi in OpenELEC (Linux distrubution dedicated for XBMC/Kodi):

Code:
http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php/Configuring_Tvheadend


If MaruApp was at least open source then that would sure be a little better, but if MaruApp TV server was instead only acting as a real PVR backend for XBMC then it would not matter as much if it was closed source, as then much could still be done in XBMC's open source code to improve the actual user experience.

The best scenario to get as many community developers involved as would of course be an open source MaruApp TV server, and open source Vu+/PrismCube PVR backend client for XBMC (that uses XBMC's PVR API), as then third-party community developers can assist in the whole chain, both working on bugs and developing new features or functions. This is the scenario that PVR backend client for XBMC is for Tvheadend, VDR, MediaPortal, and MythTV today and those all work great with very active community developers.

Second best would be closed source MaruApp TV server, and open source Vu+/PrismCube PVR backend client for XBMC (that uses XBMC's PVR API), as then third-party community developers could at least assist in developing both the Vu+/PrismCube PVR backend client for XBMC as well as XBMC. That is the scenario that ServerWMC is in today, which is a third-party open source WMC PVR backend client for XBMC that can still fully control closed source Microsoft Windows Media Center.

Third best would be closed source MaruApp TV server, and closed source Vu+/PrismCube PVR backend client for XBMC (that uses XBMC's PVR API), which would mean that Marusus would have to develop all the backend features themselves without assistance from the community, but at least the community could develop XBMC's PVR GUI, PVR API, and skins, which would improve the end-user experience to give used a completely unified interface and the ability to switch skin in XBMC (without having to skin MaruApp separately).

However today we are almost looking at at almost the worse possible XBMC experience possible on Vu+/PrismCube, with the separate MaruApp having it's own GUI. The only worse XBMC experience I can think of is if the MaruApp did not have the same look and feel as XBMC, but I think it is still bad enough as it is today.
 
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angelofsky1980

BlackHole Driver Specialist
Great to hear that XBMC (now Kodi) have finally been ported to Vu+, however I'm sad to hear it is not using XBMC's internal PVR frontend GUI for LiveTV, EPG, and DVR.

I have the same issue with this as I do with PrismCube not utilizing the full potential of XBMC by not using XBMC's internal PVR frontend GUI unified interface.

That is, XBMCon Vu+ does not seam to use the integrated PVR or Live TV interface inside XBMC at all, and instead just like on PrismCube it launches a separate closed source application (MaruApp on PrismCube) for the PVR and Live-TV parts, and my guess it is probably even the same separate application software launched being developed by the same developers at Marusus for both Vu+ and PrismCube.

Code:
http://www.prismcube-community.net/board/threads/ideas-for-consideration-for-inclusion-in-future-builds.763/

I would very much like to see both Vu+ and PrismCube to instead use XBMC's own native PVR frontend GUI for PVR/DVR/EPG/Live-TV as the only interface on these boxes, and for that have a (headless) PVR-backend/server software which only works as a TV-tuner and recording server running as a background daemon service without a GUI.

Code:
http://kodi.wiki/index.php?title=PVR

I think that Vu+/PrismCube today is kind of ruining the XBMC experience by breaking the immersion of running the single application that is XBMC media center GUI, as it is right now Vu+/PrismCube is instead launching its own separate application for all PVR functions, and that separate application has its own GUI that only tries to emulate the look and feel of XBMC, but needs its own skin.

So it should instead in the future Vu+/PrismCube should port its own PVR backend TV server into a headless background running daemon service that work similar to like how Tvheadend PVR backend with XBMC works on a computer today, (and same if you use MediaPortal Server, VDR, or MythTV backend/server, etc. with XBMC). Which then all share the same XBMC's own native PVR frontend GUI for a common unified interface for everything, and the end-user should not even really need to know what PVR backend server that is running underneath it all.


Note again that I am not saying that Vu+/PrismCube should simply use Tvheadend or VDR. No I am instead saying that Vu+/PrismCube should convert the code for their existing TV tuning application into a PVR backend TV server that works similar to Tvheadend or VDR, without its own GUI. And to begin to instead fully utilize XBMC's native PVR frontend GUI, and soley use that GUI as the only end-user interface for Vu+/PrismCube that the users see on their TV display screen, following the XBMC' concept of how PVR should all the way completely, which happen to be standard client (frontend) to server (backend) model based

Code:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client–server_model

By switching to using XBMC's own native PVR frontend GUI and the PVR backend concept you will again all the benefits on a common development community that all work towards the same goal to improve XBMC's own native PVR frontend GUI and API interlace, no matter what PVR backend is used.

See example how Tvheadend integrates into XBMC/Kodi in OpenELEC (Linux distrubution dedicated for XBMC/Kodi):

Code:
http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php/Configuring_Tvheadend


If MaruApp was at least open source then that would sure be a little better, but if MaruApp TV server was instead only acting as a real PVR backend for XBMC then it would not matter as much if it was closed source, as then much could still be done in XBMC's open source code to improve the actual user experience.

The best scenario to get as many community developers involved as would of course be an open source MaruApp TV server, and open source Vu+/PrismCube PVR backend client for XBMC (that uses XBMC's PVR API), as then third-party community developers can assist in the whole chain, both working on bugs and developing new features or functions. This is the scenario that PVR backend client for XBMC is for Tvheadend, VDR, MediaPortal, and MythTV today and those all work great with very active community developers.

Second best would be closed source MaruApp TV server, and open source Vu+/PrismCube PVR backend client for XBMC (that uses XBMC's PVR API), as then third-party community developers could at least assist in developing both the Vu+/PrismCube PVR backend client for XBMC as well as XBMC. That is the scenario that ServerWMC is in today, which is a third-party open source WMC PVR backend client for XBMC that can still fully control closed source Microsoft Windows Media Center.

Third best would be closed source MaruApp TV server, and closed source Vu+/PrismCube PVR backend client for XBMC (that uses XBMC's PVR API), which would mean that Marusus would have to develop all the backend features themselves without assistance from the community, but at least the community could develop XBMC's PVR GUI, PVR API, and skins, which would improve the end-user experience to give used a completely unified interface and the ability to switch skin in XBMC (without having to skin MaruApp separately).

However today we are almost looking at at almost the worse possible XBMC experience possible on Vu+/PrismCube, with the separate MaruApp having it's own GUI. The only worse XBMC experience I can think of is if the MaruApp did not have the same look and feel as XBMC, but I think it is still bad enough as it is today.

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Don Andres

BH Lover
Good evening guys ,
When I launch XBMC it says that new Kodi 1.40 stable is available .
Is there any posibility for online update from 1.32 to 1.40 online ?
 

Manny S

Vu+ Newbie
Has anyone had any freezing whilst playing icefilms on xbmc blackhole?

Been getting freezing and buffering issues whilse playing icefilms on my vu plus solo 2 blackhole xbmc.

Tested my fibre Internet all working great....

Can someone please help? Thanks!
 

Harley

Vu+ Newbie
News post
Code:
http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/01/17/linux-based-vu-dvb-set-top-boxes-now-support-xbmckodi/

PLEASE DON'T SPAM!
Cross-posting yes, spamming no. Cross-posting is usually OK when relevant discussion is ongoing in two subforums.
 
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hackeurs50

Vu+ Newbie
hi all
and possible to xbmc (kodi) on vu+ zero
thank you

salut à tous
et possible de XBMC (Kodi) sur "vu + zéro"
merci
hackeurs50
 

Manny S

Vu+ Newbie
Hi

Does anyone know if the added on xbmc TV ON DESI ZONE work on the VU PLUS XBMC?

Been getting script failure each time.
I tried every possible way but no luck...can someone test on their systems if it works?

Thanks
 

Ev0

Admin
that bad announce a new model(Vu+zero)and leave him out of this project. it becomes very bad Vu+.
So you think it's bad that they replaced there oldest most basic model with a newer smaller and more powerful box that's cheaper than the old model ?

There is a budget model that supports Xbmc already, it's called the SoloSE
 
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powel

Vu+ Newbie
I have blackhole 2.15 on vuoduo2, downloaded Navix 37-8 on my pc zip file. Where do I send the zipfile into the vuo duo2 and how to add Navix into the the xbmc for the vuoduo2 thanks
 

tigrousad

Vu+ Newbie
I have blackhole 2.15 on vuoduo2, downloaded Navix 37-8 on my pc zip file. Where do I send the zipfile into the vuo duo2 and how to add Navix into the the xbmc for the vuoduo2 thanks
hi powel...

put downloaded zip in your duo2 hdd,

  • Open XBMC
  • Select SYSTEM > Settings
navix1.jpg

  • Select Add-Ons
navix2.jpg

  • Select Install from Zip File
navix3.jpg

  • Navigate to where you saved the NaviX Zip file, (your duoHDD), select the file (the image below shows Navi-X Version 3.7.8, the latest version is 4.0 which is what you will have downloaded
  • Select OK
navix4.jpg

Navi-X is now installed.

To view Navi-X:

  • Select PROGRAMS on your Kodi / XBMC homescreen
navix5.jpg

  • Scroll down and select Navi-X
navix6.jpg

  • The best way to enjoy this is obviously to play around and get used to it. But I recommend you select Navi-Xtreme Portal
navix7.jpg
 
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