Hi, I just bought a DUO 4K SE, on internal flash installed BH 310 and internal SSD in OMB installed OBH 4.4 and VTi 15.0. Reading the above review of this receiver there is written, that it is possible to get picons onto the receiver's display, however on this receiver I am not able to get it done unlike on my older receiver VU+ DUO2. There seem to be no LCD4Linux yet for DUO4K SE with BH images. With the same receiver under VTi 15.0 it's feasible, but unfortunately VTi is not my preferred enigma2 image. Can anyone enlighten me on this please? Thanks
DUO4K SE LCD4Linux
- Thread starter micmacko
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Hi mr. micmacko i have done all what you have done on DUO 4K SE many times ,the best image on internal and external hard or flash in open ATV 6.4 here it is possible to get picons onto the receiver's display even you can watch the channels also on receiver's display, the second best image on internal and external hard or flash is OBH 4.4 which have more and better options than BH 310 but less than open ATV 6.4 ,so it is better to install OBH 4.4 on external flash( as it is a big heavy image in internal flash ) and install open ATV 6.4 on internal flash ,you will succeed in installing most of the plugins by this method ,this is the best option i have experienced by choosing this option there will be no load on the processor and RAM of the DUO 4K SE , my regards to all .
AlexWilMac
Moderator
It's not true there isn't L4L for BH: obviously, you must install the Duo4K version; there is no difference in display HW between the two models, of course. SE has only a slight different clock.
But, if you want to give also OBH a go, instead of going after ugly images... I'm sure you won't be let down by it.
thanks for tips. As I said I am a big fan of Blackhole and that will probably always be my main enigma installed on internal flash. Currently I am experimenting with OBH 4.4 on my SSD installed in the receiver. It looks cool and has many integrated options that in BH 310 was only available as plugin. I like this. In OBH 4.4 I finally managed to get working Picons on my front display by downloading a front display picon pack. Also LCD4linux is working.
I am actually running OBH 4.4 as a second image in OMB from my SSD. I already downloaded plugin LCD4linux Config V5.0-r8x (mode: Py2) At the end I downloaded a front display picon pack so now I have what I wanted.
Btw. in OBH 4.4 downloadable plugins I can't find FCC like I can find it in BH 310 plugins. Am I looking the wrong place or it is really not available? Thanks
AlexWilMac
Moderator
Let me understand: you downloaded only the L4L config package? Not the L4L for Duo4K plugin and THEN the config?
There is no LCD4Linux Config 5.0: we have
LCD4Linux 5.0
and
LCD4Linux Config OBH Duo4K only.
So it's not clear what you did download.
This is at least under OBH. I can't check under BH at the moment but I suppose it's the same.
There is no LCD4Linux Config 5.0: we have
LCD4Linux 5.0
and
LCD4Linux Config OBH Duo4K only.
So it's not clear what you did download.
This is at least under OBH. I can't check under BH at the moment but I suppose it's the same.
AlexWilMac
Moderator
FCC is not available in any of the open images: actually, considering how fast has become OBH at zapping, my very personal and very subjective opinion is that FCC is only for maniacs of zapping 
My life doesn't change if I can't establish the new world record of zapped (not watched) channels...
My life doesn't change if I can't establish the new world record of zapped (not watched) channels...I am sorry for not being clear enough. I tried to react on several thing at the same time. Just to put it simply, all I wanted was to have picons on front display on my DUO4K SE. Now I have them after downloading a proper picon pack for front display of my receiver. The L4L in OBH is not in the list of downloadable plugins, but as you said before it is there for DUO4K, however after the plugin L4L for DUO4K the next in the list is LCD4linux Config V5.0-r8x (mode: Py2), so I downloaded this one and it works, but eventually I did not use it, because the skin for the front display + the picon pack I found is satisfying my current needs.
I appreciate the help! It is nice that there are people who try to help other who are maybe not so skilled in the area of playing around with enigma2.
FCC is not available in any of the open images: actually, considering how fast has become OBH at zapping, my very personal and very subjective opinion is that FCC is only for maniacs of zapping
I agree that the standard zapping could be nowadays OK, but considering that I am running multiple sources of decoding different providers the zapping between them seems too long to me (several seconds). Zapping channles of the same provider is kind of OK. Maybe I just incorrectly configured ***** for reading the card.
AlexWilMac
Moderator
Read forum rules, please, specifically number 4, because you violated it.
But I'd really like to know how FCC would have an impact on your problem, where it's not the channel zapping involved but the decrypting!
But I'd really like to know how FCC would have an impact on your problem, where it's not the channel zapping involved but the decrypting!
I read the rules, thanks for pointing out. Although I wasn't referring to any illegalities as the cards I am using are legitimate. However I understood the rule that no discussion is allowed about decrypting, etc.
Regarding FCC, I got your point, sure you know what you are talking about, but my statement was based only on subjective feelings. With FCC zapping feels much faster when channels of different providers are involved. I have no technical justification though.
I read the rules, thanks for pointing out. Although I wasn't referring to any illegalities as the cards I am using are legitimate. However I understood the rule that no discussion is allowed about decrypting, etc.
Regarding FCC, I got your point, sure you know what you are talking about, but my statement was based only on subjective feelings. With FCC zapping feels much faster when channels of different providers are involved. I have no technical justification though.
AlexWilMac
Moderator
It's not the decrypting the problem: even using legitimate cards but using illegal ways to decrypt them it's not allowed.
About zapping: so, 0.5 seconds it's too much? Obviously, you need to measure this by FTA channels, otherwise you introduce a bias in measurements.
Of course FCC is faster, but you should consider the overall functions and features to decide. This is a decision I took quite long ago...
About zapping: so, 0.5 seconds it's too much? Obviously, you need to measure this by FTA channels, otherwise you introduce a bias in measurements.
Of course FCC is faster, but you should consider the overall functions and features to decide. This is a decision I took quite long ago...
...how much I can learn just in few forum posts 
Today the world is too fast and doesn't give me the luxury to study everything in depth. I was not aware that the way I decrypt is illeagal, because the shop where I buy HW and cards sells and advertises, that they setup your receiver after your purchase. The setup is exactly the one I described before. Maybe what you said varies country by country and the local law. I know the correct way is the CA module + card if someone doesn't like the receiver proposed by the provider.
Definitely, FTA channels zap with lightning speed! I feel still a bit sad that there is no FCC plugin in OBH though. I prefer running BH310, which suites the best my current needs.
Recently I swapped my Duo2 for Duo4K SE + changed Unicable I. LNB for Unicable II. I am wondering whether my tuners are set up correctly. This could be potentially also a problem with slower zapping, right? I oserved that Tuner setting differ a bit between OBH 4.4 and BH310. (but this topic is probably for a different thread....sorry)
Today the world is too fast and doesn't give me the luxury to study everything in depth. I was not aware that the way I decrypt is illeagal, because the shop where I buy HW and cards sells and advertises, that they setup your receiver after your purchase. The setup is exactly the one I described before. Maybe what you said varies country by country and the local law. I know the correct way is the CA module + card if someone doesn't like the receiver proposed by the provider.Definitely, FTA channels zap with lightning speed! I feel still a bit sad that there is no FCC plugin in OBH though. I prefer running BH310, which suites the best my current needs.
Recently I swapped my Duo2 for Duo4K SE + changed Unicable I. LNB for Unicable II. I am wondering whether my tuners are set up correctly. This could be potentially also a problem with slower zapping, right? I oserved that Tuner setting differ a bit between OBH 4.4 and BH310. (but this topic is probably for a different thread....sorry)
AlexWilMac
Moderator
Yes, the topic is different. Please, open a new thread, post your tuner configuration and we'll see.
Maybe you may find something useful also for your case (despite the fact my thread concerned a different issue) in this thread:
https://www.vuplus-community.net/board/threads/mixed-scr-universal-tuner-management-issue.37504/
Maybe you may find something useful also for your case (despite the fact my thread concerned a different issue) in this thread:
https://www.vuplus-community.net/board/threads/mixed-scr-universal-tuner-management-issue.37504/
nunigaia
Moderator
...how much I can learn just in few forum posts
Definitely, FTA channels zap with lightning speed! I feel still a bit sad that there is no FCC plugin in OBH though. I prefer running BH310, which suites the best my current needs.
Recently I swapped my Duo2 for Duo4K SE + changed Unicable I. LNB for Unicable II. I am wondering whether my tuners are set up correctly. This could be potentially also a problem with slower zapping, right? I oserved that Tuner setting differ a bit between OBH 4.4 and BH310. (but this topic is probably for a different thread....sorry)
Q. I was not aware that the way I decrypt is illeagal, because the shop where I buy HW and cards sells and advertises, that they setup your receiver after your purchase.
A. Is their problem, not ours ... we don´t give support to any kind of illegal stuff. CI+ is not supported under BlackHole or Open BlackHole images. Tuner settings is similar!
Q. FTA channels zap with lightning speed! I feel still a bit sad that there is no FCC plugin in OBH though.
A. Images are different ...FCC = BH ... noFCC = OBH
Q. Recently I swapped my Duo2 for Duo4K SE + changed Unicable I. LNB for Unicable II. I am wondering whether my tuners are set up correctly. This could be potentially also a problem with slower zapping, right? I oserved that Tuner setting differ a bit between OBH 4.4 and BH310. (but this topic is probably for a different thread....sorry
A. Yes, it´s different as the image running on your STB as your STB itself, so ... on your next posts, please, do so:
§ Post on the section for your STB and Image support ... i.e. DUO4K SE ( Blackhole or Open BlackHole images ) ... so please, don´t mix posts and threads!.
Please note for last:
We are tired to move posts, from thread to thread, box to box, image to image ... no one is respecting our work ( for free )....
The title was LCD4LINUX DUO4K ( i swaped the title to DUO4K SE ) ... same as DUO4K as they use the same config ( LCD has the same size ) ...
Now i can see at this thread, some questions about DUO2, regarding DUO4K SE, including "illegal issues" ... configs of UNICABLE 1/2 ...
Who can give some help, where everything is mixed?
best regards
nunigaia
I thought I got the section right at my first post. BH international support > VU+ 4K receiver > VU+Duo4K SE BH images. All my doubts/questions were related to the fact that I just replaced my Duo2 with Duo4K SE and was also trying to migrate from BH310 to OBH 4.4. In the process I realized, that there are some things differennt, some things missing and some things working in a different way to what I was used to, but generally speaking all those are relevant for this thread. At least I thought so.
well, I am deeply sorry for the inconvenience caused. I understand what you as moderator have to face everytime a dude like me needs help and writes a post. It is difficult to stick to the rules sometimes if you have changed receiver, LNB and also playing around with different images. There are so many doubts and questions, that one would need to be simultaneously posting in different threads and then following up all of them. It is not about not respecting your precious work (for free). You are most probably a long existing community with quite advance knowledge in sat world, but I am just a passionate amateur who is scratching the surface. Thanks for your patience.
well, I am deeply sorry for the inconvenience caused. I understand what you as moderator have to face everytime a dude like me needs help and writes a post. It is difficult to stick to the rules sometimes if you have changed receiver, LNB and also playing around with different images. There are so many doubts and questions, that one would need to be simultaneously posting in different threads and then following up all of them. It is not about not respecting your precious work (for free). You are most probably a long existing community with quite advance knowledge in sat world, but I am just a passionate amateur who is scratching the surface. Thanks for your patience.
nunigaia
Moderator
To get picons ...
Upload it to:
Code:
/media/usb/picon
/media/hdd/picon
or just ... when using openMultiboot
/omb/piconJust remember your title thread ... "LCD4Linux" ... please, don´t mix it!
best regards
nunigaia
AlexWilMac
Moderator
BH and OBH are completely different operative systems (what in Enigma2 STBs are called images! Your "intention" was similar to migrate from windows to MacOs!
So, your post should have been in OBH section, as it is the image you want to use.
In the process I realized, that there are some things differennt, some things missing and some things working in a different way...
Yes, just because they are different OSs: or do you think that a similar name means everything? Their similar names comes from the fact that they are developed by many people who develop both projects.
one would need to be simultaneously posting in different threads and then following up all of them.
This is exactly how a forum works: different threads for different topics. And I don't see the problem at following several threads: you are comfortably notified in the upper right part of the home page.
And if you are passionate and willing to learn, my advice is to read even other people messages: you can't imagine how much you would find out and learn.