VU+ Duo2 Tuner Setting!

[aardvark5]

I'm ready to pull my hair out.
I have a Solo2 that I have no problems with eg:
Tuner A: Usals Tuner B:Usals
I can record any two channels I want (on different transponders) and choose a 3rd to watch as long as it's on the same transponder as one of the others.
I can move my dish to any satellite I want.

Duo2:
Tuner A: Usals Tuner B:Usals
I can record any two channels I want (on different transponders) and choose a 3rd to watch as long as it's on the same transponder as one of the others.
I CAN'T MOVE MY DISH!

If I put it on Tuner A: Usals Tuner B: Loopthrough I can move my dish however I can only record two programmes as long as they are on the same transponder.
I've also tried other configurations but always with Tuner A on USALS.

Any ideas what I need to do please?

 

[Mick12334]

Try setting one of the tuners to Usals and the other to Equal to.
I assume you are using a twing LNB, with 2 cables, one for each tuner.

 

[aardvark5]

I've tried that Mick with no luck.
If I set to Equall To the dish will move but I can't record two channels at the same time.
Yes I'm using two cables but the Duo2 has got one (twin) Tuner but with two inputs unlike my Solo2 which has two single tuners.

I presume you can record two channels on different transponders at the same time and also move your dish so what are your settings?

Thanks

 

[Mick12334]

I'm just using 1 tuner, at the moment, and I have to use advanced settings, usiong Diseqc 1.2, as I have a 36v motor and a V-Box II.

In theory you can record a lot more than 2 channels, on a VU+ Duo2, you can have 4 inbuilt tuner, as there are 2 slots, and external USB tuners.

When you used your Solo 2 which image were you using?

Have you tried using the Timer? So far I've had no problems setting multiple recordings, on different satellites.

Try using the advanced option, for the tuners, as you can select Usals in that, or set one to Usals and one to advanced, or various combinations, Advanced and Equal to, etc, and see which option works.

 

[aardvark5]

I'm not getting anywhere.
I've even tried OpenVix but both that and a virgin install of Blackhole send my dish off to other positions and I can't get the dish to stay on a satellite when I change the channel (it seems to move off a few degrees).
My Solo2 was so easy to setup but this is driving me daft.

 

[Mick12334]

Setting the motor up shouldn't be any different, as you're using the same image.
Have you checked your Usals information, Latitud, & Longitude?
You could try sending the motor to zero and start again, or you could go into the advanced menu, select Diseqc 1.2, and manually store the satellites.
Which tuner are you using to move your dish?

 

[aardvark5]

To be honest I've put my Solo2 back on and that's all buggered up now.
I put BBC One on and the dish is about 3 deg out to the East and putting another satellite in won't move the dish but if I go outside and move it with the buttons, when I press BBC One it goes back to 28E but still out by 3 deg.
I haven't got a clue what's happened.

 

[Mick12334]

It sounds like you've messed up the motor settings, or the dish, and motor, have moved, due to bad weather.
You should have the option of resetting the motor, to zero, by either manually pressing some buttons, on the motor. Once this has been done you can set up Usals, on your receiver from the beginning.
A quick fix would be to alter your longitude setting, to compensate for the mis-alignment, or switch to Diseqc 1.2, manually move the dish, and store each satellite.

 

[aardvark5]

Bloody hell, I didn't read this until now.
I've been messing again for 2 hours setting up the Positioner Settings and it works fine pressing GoTo X but go back to normal Tuner and it moves a couple of degrees.
I then gave up and pressed GoTo 0, checked it had gone to 0, searched for 28.2, saved, went to my normal Tuner and I'm back to a working system with both tuners on USALS
Perhaps you used ESP on me.

Thanks, now to try the Duo2 again.

 

[aardvark5]

Still getting nowhere with the Duo2.

Here's my problem that I can do very easily with the Solo2:

I want to be able to record any two channels on eg 28.2E and after they've finished I may want to move to 19E.
On the Solo2 my tuners are both set to USALS (Simple Positioner with the correct Lat & Long).
On the Duo2 to record any two channels I have to set it to the above but I'm unable to move the dish so I have to put Tuner B on Loopthrough and the dish will then move.
I can then set Tuner B back to USALS and I can record any two channels.

 

[Mick12334]

Is this the same even with the new software, 2.1.2?
How are you moving the dish, after the recordings have been stopped?
Try setting Tuner B to use the USALS option and tuner A to either Equal to, or Advanced, then ensure when setting the initial timer, or selecting a channel, to move the dish, that you use Tuner B.

 

[aardvark5]

Is this the same even with the new software, 2.1.2?

Not sure of the software number but the same problem with OpenVix, OpenPLA and another one.

How are you moving the dish, after the recordings have been stopped?

Of course.

Try setting Tuner B to use the USALS option and tuner A to either Equal to, or Advanced, then ensure when setting the initial timer, or selecting a channel, to move the dish, that you use Tuner B.

Here's one of my otrher problems.
On the Solo2 I have 2 seperate single tuners, one is called A and the other is called B.
On the Duo2 I have Tuner A that has two inputs.
This is where I'm getting confused, do I need to install another tuner in the B position?

 

[Mick12334]

No, the VU+ Duo 2 can hold 4 tuners, using two separate tuner cards, these can be a mixture of Satellite, Cable, or Terrestrial.
Even though it is only one tuner card it does contain 2 separate tuners, A and B, as you can see in the tuner setup menu.
You can buy a second DVB-S tuner card, giving you 4 satellite tuners, but I thionk you need to resolve this problem first.
have you trioed an earlier image, like Black Hole 2.1.0 or earlier?

 

[aardvark5]

I've tried different versions (and other peoples backups) of Blackhole, OpenVix, Open PLA and Open SPA with no luck.

Like I said, my Solo2 works every time with USALS set on both tuners and I can't see why the more expensive Duo2 shouldn't.

 

[angelofsky1980]

Not sure of the software number but the same problem with OpenVix, OpenPLA and another one.
Of course.
Here's one of my otrher problems.
On the Solo2 I have 2 seperate single tuners, one is called A and the other is called B.
On the Duo2 I have Tuner A that has two inputs.
This is where I'm getting confused, do I need to install another tuner in the B position?

On Duo2 with a Dual DVB-S2 tuner you have two indipendent tuners with 2 inputs into a single slot. The box detects Tuner A and Tuner B that are the two inputs of your box.

I've read some of your posts and I can't understand how much dishes you have and how many USALS motors you have. Can you clear these infos?

 

[aardvark5]

I've read some of your posts and I can't understand how much dishes you have and how many USALS motors you have. Can you clear these infos?

I can't see what's hard to understand.
I've had motorised systems since the D2Mac days in the 80's but recently upgraded to an 85cm dish with a Diseqc motor and recently bought a Solo2 which works perfectly on the USALS settings.
(eg I can record two channels on any transponder and if on the next day I want to turn to another satellite it will do it and then I can record on that if I want to).
I now have a Duo2 (because I have a buyer for my Solo2 if I want) but I can't get it to work like my Solo2.
The only way I can get it to move is if I put Tuner B on Loopthrough but I can't then record on two channels.

To summarise, I have one dish and one motor but have a Solo2 and Duo2 that I am swapping over but I can't get the Duo2 to work like my Solo2.

Oh and thanks for the replies.

 

[Mick12334]

Logically only one tuner should be capable of moving your dish, otherwise you could end up with conflicts.
Have you tried setting Tuner B to Simple USALS and Tuner A to Equal to?
I assume by now you've tried nearly every setting, and it still will not work.
One thing you could try is to set Tuner B to advanced, and Diseqc 1.2, then manually move your dish, and store a few satellite positions, e.g. Astra 1, 19.2E, set to position 1, Hotbird, 13E, set to position 2, then set Tuner A to Equal to, or other settings, and see if it then works.

 

[Matrix10]

However, I must ask have you tested with

Tuner A USALS
Tuner B second cable of motorised LNB

EDIT >THIS WILL NOT WORK

 

[Matrix10]

Now I tested
truth is a little different antenna installation

Both working
A Usals .<> B Usals
and
A Usuals <>B equal to Tuner A

Depending on the free tuners DiSEqC commands go from tuner that is free.

 

[aardvark5]

Have you tried setting Tuner B to Simple USALS and Tuner A to Equal to?
I assume by now you've tried nearly every setting, and it still will not work.
One thing you could try is to set Tuner B to advanced, and Diseqc 1.2, then manually move your dish, and store a few satellite positions, e.g. Astra 1, 19.2E, set to position 1, Hotbird, 13E, set to position 2, then set Tuner A to Equal to, or other settings, and see if it then works.

My logic tells me Tuner A is the main one and B should be the one that has the alternative settings but I've now seen quite a few posts where A has the alternative settings.
I think I haven't tried B has the main Tuner but I'm going to.
Would I need to swap the cables round so the motor cable now goes in Tuner B (the bottom input)?