cross epg annoying problem

frank087234

Vu+ User
OK, so I will put epg in hdd, but is it ok to continue use usb for picons, despite it causing problem when used for epg?? as u say it may have system error not corrected by refomatting.

another q: how do mount usb with fstab ???
 

Shiro

BH-C
OK, so I will put epg in hdd, but is it ok to continue use usb for picons, despite it causing problem when used for epg?? as u say it may have system error not corrected by refomatting.
another q: how do mount usb with fstab ???

Yes you can use usb for picons but is better that you format it in ext3 using bh usb format wizard and then map it in bh device manager.
 

Shiro

BH-C
explanation: if you have picons on usb and usb will have an issue it will generate an input/output error.
In this case the result is only that the picon file will be not found and the picon will not appears in the osd.

If you have epg on usb and the usb will have an issue the result is that a corrupt epg file could be loaded in memory causing system instability and crashes and if the usb mountpoint will be lost the corrupted file will be saved in /media/usb. But because /media/usb will be not mounted in usb this location will be in flash and the corrupted file will be saved in flash causing other poblems at reboot.

If you use a good usb stick formatted in Linux native fs maybe you will have not any kind of problem with epg in usb. But we have known of many and many users that have issues with usb sticks and for this reason if you ask for better solution i will always reply hdd.
 

a911

The BH Lover
explanation: if you have picons on usb and usb will have an issue it will generate an input/output error.
In this case the result is only that the picon file will be not found and the picon will not appears in the osd.

If you have epg on usb and the usb will have an issue the result is that a corrupt epg file could be loaded in memory causing system instability and crashes and if the usb mountpoint will be lost the corrupted file will be saved in /media/usb. But because /media/usb will be not mounted in usb this location will be in flash and the corrupted file will be saved in flash causing other poblems at reboot.

If you use a good usb stick formatted in Linux native fs maybe you will have not any kind of problem with epg in usb. But we have known of many and many users that have issues with usb sticks and for this reason if you ask for better solution i will always reply hdd.

Very interesting , Thanks for the info!

I have one problem with my USB, regarding swap file on the it!
I create a swap file as usual on the USB (with 1 partition )..and follow the normal procedures!
Recently when I check the statues , after few hours, it give me that the swap file is deactivated on its own and will not activate by pressing the green button,,no action get stuck!
Why its happening like that,,,,should I format the stick other than fat32,,???

RgdZ
a911
 

boyofford

Vu+ User
explanation: if you have picons on usb and usb will have an issue it will generate an input/output error.
In this case the result is only that the picon file will be not found and the picon will not appears in the osd.

If you have epg on usb and the usb will have an issue the result is that a corrupt epg file could be loaded in memory causing system instability and crashes and if the usb mountpoint will be lost the corrupted file will be saved in /media/usb. But because /media/usb will be not mounted in usb this location will be in flash and the corrupted file will be saved in flash causing other poblems at reboot.

If you use a good usb stick formatted in Linux native fs maybe you will have not any kind of problem with epg in usb. But we have known of many and many users that have issues with usb sticks and for this reason if you ask for better solution i will always reply hdd.
I've moved epg to hard disk now, thanks for info

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Shiro

BH-C
Very interesting , Thanks for the info!

I have one problem with my USB, regarding swap file on the it!
I create a swap file as usual on the USB (with 1 partition )..and follow the normal procedures!
Recently when I check the statues , after few hours, it give me that the swap file is deactivated on its own and will not activate by pressing the green button,,no action get stuck!
Why its happening like that,,,,should I format the stick other than fat32,,???

RgdZ
a911

Fat 32 fir swap file ????
You are in Linux not in windows !!
 

godsell51

Vu+ Newbie
crossepg on usb stick
Hi
I had the same problem, using usb stick in the front usb on vu solo, so i am now using the rear usb connection, and cross epg always recognised flash drive
hope this will help
 
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mickle026

Vu+ Newbie
I Agree with Shiro that ext3 is linux and Linux is the best way to go period! (ext4 is actually better if your kernal supports it because of the extended crash journal created under ext4)

WARNING - If you have no or little linux experience then do NOT follow any of this!!

But I still disagree that it is the only way to go and that it is the most reliable too. I/O errors still occur with any external drive whether it be HDD or USB. The reliability of the IO all depends on your particular devices. There is no easy fast rule with this.
Most of the IO problems I have ever experienced are actually caused by Enigma2 and not the device itself. Which is a strange thing to say when there is not much in the code to suggest this, and the crash logs dont suggest this either. However if you move control from Enigma2 to the kernal, the problems vanish completely. So how then must it be the devices and not Enigma2 and how it enumerates them?

I still even now run epg and picons and the swapfile from a flash drive formatted to ntfs. Apologies for earlier post that said it was fat32, it isnt its ntfs.
Arrrghh - I hear Shiro cry!! - And I agree, if it was a problem then I would have it ext3/4 , picons and epg on the HDD.
However, the budget 4gb flash drive has been in use for over 3 years now and still does not crash. You have to also consider that flash memory is volatile and the suggested read/write operations before bad blocks start to appear is about 1000 times. That said the microcontrollers inside flash drives (yes they have them as do SD cards) carry algorythms to move the data about and roughly even out the use of blocks over the whole flash. So writing and reading a file 1000 times does not mean the same block is witten to 1000 times. If the card/device is under half full it will last very much longer. In my case it is still fine 3 years on.
So I still Agree with what Shiro says about supposed reliability and if you are a new user to the linux system to make sure you eliminate possible frustating errors from the start. BUT, it is not the only way and fast hard rule.

I have my ntfs USB mounted via fstab from the kernel and mounting is not controlled by enigma2. I mounted it using the system bus rather than the symlink.
I have also Samba shared all my mount points so that I can add them as network drives in windows and access everything without even using an ftp app. If you do this you NEED to make sure your network is not externally accesible from the internet - so be careful with this. YOU WERE WARNED.
I have added this information soley for users to refer to, and not for you to use without running out of options. The use of fstab is recommended only for people with good experience and is not recommended for new users. Issues in corrupting the fstab file can result in your image not booting at all. It MUST be in LINUX LF format and not DOS or NOTEPAD CRLF!!! (LF=Line feed,CRLF=Carriage return Line Feed. Both are line terminator used in text files, however Linux does not support CRLF - users can run DOS2UNIX via telnet to convert CRLF to LF if they know how)

My Fstab /etc/fstab:
I mount the two hard drive patitions by their device ID's so that they stay in the same order. I also mount my network drives in fstab (they are samba (CIFS) and not NAS). I have created symlinks in /media/net - you can do this using the images mount manager.

Code:
rootfs  /  auto  defaults  1  1
proc  /proc  proc  defaults  0  0
devpts  /dev/pts  devpts  mode=0620,gid=5  0  0
usbdevfs  /proc/bus/usb  usbdevfs  noauto  0  0
tmpfs  /var/volatile  tmpfs  defaults  0  0
usbfs  /proc/bus/usb  usbfs  defaults  0  0
UUID=XXXXXXXX-XXXX-4ae5-ad4a-XXXXXXXXXX  /media/hdd2  auto  defaults  0 0
UUID=XXXXXXXX-XXXX-4436-bbc6-XXXXXXXXXX  /media/hdd  auto  defaults  0 0
//192.168.1.XX/avis /media/net/avis  cifs  username=username,password=password,_netdev,rw,iocharset=utf8  0 0
//192.168.1.XX/music /media/net/music  cifs
username=username,password=password,_netdev,rw,iocharset=utf8  0 0

My Samba Config /etc/samba/samba.conf:
I have a password for the vu flash configuaration (yes this too is a network drive in my system)
Code:
[Configuration]
  comment = Configuration files - take care!
  path = /
  wide links = yes
  write list = PASSWORD root
  create mask = 0755
  read only = yes
  public = yes
  guest ok = yes

[Harddisk]
  comment = The VU harddisk
  path = /hdd
  wide links = yes
  read only = no
  public = yes
  guest ok = yes

[Harddisk2]
  comment = The 2nd VU harddisk
  path = /media/hdd2
  wide links = yes
  read only = no
  public = yes
  guest ok = yes

[Movie]
  comment = Recordings
  path = /hdd/movie
  wide links = yes
  create mask = 0755
  read only = yes
  public = yes
  guest ok = yes

[UnoUSB]
  comment = Usbstick
  path = /media/usb
  wide links = yes
  create mask = 0755
  read only = no
  public = no
  guest ok = yes

I know this may be of use to some people, but again advise newbies to follow Shiro's advice
 
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